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First Session, Forty-fourth Parliament,

70-71 Elizabeth II, 2021-2022

HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA

BILL C-278
An Act to prevent the imposition by the federal government of vaccination mandates for employment and travel
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FIRST READING, JUNE 2, 2022
Mr. Poilievre

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SUMMARY
This enactment amends the Financial Administration Act to provide that the Treasury Board may not require as a condition of employment in the federal public administration that a person receive a vaccine against COVID-19. It also amends the Canada Labour Code to provide that regulations may not be made that require, as a term or condition of employment in or in connection with the operation of a federal work, undertaking or business, that a person receive a vaccine against COVID-19.

In addition, the enactment amends the Aeronautics Act, the Railway Safety Act and the Canada Shipping Act, 2001 to provide that no regulation, order or other instrument made under any of those Acts to prevent the introduction or spread of COVID-19 may prohibit or have the effect of prohibiting a person from boarding an aircraft, a train or a vessel solely on the ground that they have not received a vaccine against that disease.

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1st Session, 44th Parliament,

70-71 Elizabeth II, 2021-2022

HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA

BILL C-278

An Act to prevent the imposition by the federal government of vaccination mandates for employment and travel

Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:

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1 This Act may be cited as the Prevention of Government-imposed Vaccination Mandates Act.

R.‍S.‍, c. F-11

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2 Subsection 11.‍1(2) of the Financial Administration Act is amended by striking out “and” at the end of paragraph (a) and by adding the following after that paragraph:
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(a.‍1) do not include the power to require as a term or condition of employment in the federal public administration that a person receive a vaccine against the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) or to provide for the termination of an employee, or for a suspension of or a reduction in their pay, solely on the ground that they have not received a vaccine against COVID-19; and

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He isn't helping himself by aligning so closely with the antivaxxers.
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OMG this guy must want grandma to die.
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Chelsea Handler wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:33 pm OMG this guy must want grandma to die.
Don't waste your time. This person lives on another planet. You're better off ignoring him/her/them.
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khedrei wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:16 pm
Chelsea Handler wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:33 pm OMG this guy must want grandma to die.
Don't waste your time. This person lives on another planet. You're better off ignoring him/her/them.
Who, poliverre? Youre not making sense as usual.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:34 am He isn't helping himself by aligning so closely with the antivaxxers.
Not everyone who is against the vaccine mandates is an “anti vaxxer”. I’ve had lots of vaccines in my life but I was very opposed to what they did. Everyone should have the choice to make the decision on what they put in or keep out of their own body. End of discussion.
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Inverted2 wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:26 am
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:34 am He isn't helping himself by aligning so closely with the antivaxxers.
Not everyone who is against the vaccine mandates is an “anti vaxxer”. I’ve had lots of vaccines in my life but I was very opposed to what they did. Everyone should have the choice to make the decision on what they put in or keep out of their own body. End of discussion.
It doesnt matter that they took 43 other vaccines. If they didn't take the one I want them to take they are anti vaxxers.

Its cause science.
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Inverted2 wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:26 am

Not everyone who is against the vaccine mandates is an “anti vaxxer”. I’ve had lots of vaccines in my life but I was very opposed to what they did. Everyone should have the choice to make the decision on what they put in or keep out of their own body. End of discussion.
I didn't say they were, and as you know (if you'd read my posts) I was opposed to many of the travel mandates myself. But still, my point is that this ship has sailed, and he's mainly trying to appease the people who didn't want a vaccine, which is a pretty small group. And it doesn't seem like a good idea to completely ban all vaccine mandates.
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khedrei wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:35 am It doesnt matter that they took 43 other vaccines. If they didn't take the one I want them to take they are anti vaxxers.
Pretty much, yeah. I haven't really heard a good reason why these people didn't get a vaccine in 2021 when covid was deadly, other than "I'm scared of the science".
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CpnCrunch wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:12 pm
khedrei wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:35 am It doesnt matter that they took 43 other vaccines. If they didn't take the one I want them to take they are anti vaxxers.
Pretty much, yeah. I haven't really heard a good reason why these people didn't get a vaccine in 2021 when covid was deadly, other than "I'm scared of the science".
"I had COVID, therefore I have a stronger and more robust protection than any available medical intervention can offer" sounds like good science to me. Unfortunately, it was science that challenged the "The ScienceTM"
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J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:37 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:12 pm
khedrei wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:35 am It doesnt matter that they took 43 other vaccines. If they didn't take the one I want them to take they are anti vaxxers.
Pretty much, yeah. I haven't really heard a good reason why these people didn't get a vaccine in 2021 when covid was deadly, other than "I'm scared of the science".
"I had COVID, therefore I have a stronger and more robust protection than any available medical intervention can offer" sounds like good science to me. Unfortunately, it was science that challenged the "The ScienceTM"
Or, getting a vaccine that hasn't been proven to work, for a virus that a person is not at risk for, is also one.

And now... its been proven to NOT work. So there's that...
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Only 60% of US CDC works took the jab.
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Barn-stormer wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:03 pm Only 60% of US CDC works took the jab.
I say we mandate all people to do anything that they aren't doing that we want them to do.

'Cause science.
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khedrei wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:58 pm
J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:37 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:12 pm

Pretty much, yeah. I haven't really heard a good reason why these people didn't get a vaccine in 2021 when covid was deadly, other than "I'm scared of the science".
"I had COVID, therefore I have a stronger and more robust protection than any available medical intervention can offer" sounds like good science to me. Unfortunately, it was science that challenged the "The ScienceTM"
Or, getting a vaccine that hasn't been proven to work, for a virus that a person is not at risk for, is also one.

And now... its been proven to NOT work. So there's that...
Absolutely. People had many sound and critically-minded reasons not to accept the jab. For most age groups, taking the injection was all risk and no reward. And that was verifiable with available data at the time. Fast forward to today, and it's absurd to even suggest otherwise.

None of this makes you an anti-vaxxer. Critically minded individual, capable of making your own medical decisions, yes. Anti-vaxxer? No.
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khedrei wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:58 pm

And now... its been proven to NOT work. So there's that...
Oh really? Have your plane been proven to work yet? I guess not.
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J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:36 pm

Absolutely. People had many sound and critically-minded reasons not to accept the jab. For most age groups, taking the injection was all risk and no reward. And that was verifiable with available data at the time. Fast forward to today, and it's absurd to even suggest otherwise.
So what was that figure for you, for the initial covid strains (risk of hospitalisation and death, and reduction in risk with vaccine)? I'm assuming that you made that determination and didn't take the vaccine.
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Had 3 cases of.covid before the vax, and one after which one do you think was the worst. Not.to mention the reactions to the vax. All I want of my government(and other useless people) was to be left alone.. and no you twit, I was forced under threat of unemployment to take.it. GFY
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rigpiggy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:05 pm Had 3 cases of.covid before the vax, and one after which one do you think was the worst. Not.to mention the reactions to the vax. All I want of my government(and other useless people) was to be left alone.. and no you twit, I was forced under threat of unemployment to take.it. GFY
I don't support vaccine mandates either, but just curious what your reason was for not getting the vacccine. We have one person above saying it "doesn't work", you are kinda implying it, and another person does actually give a potentially genuine reason, although hasn't confirmed. So, unless you can come up with a coherent argument, I think that kinda confirms my original antivaxer statement. Feel free to argue with with science and logic rather than calling people 'twits'. And yes, there are definitely good reasons to not take the vaccine. My point is that the majority of people not taking it just seem to have weird antivax arguments.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:48 pm
J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:36 pm

Absolutely. People had many sound and critically-minded reasons not to accept the jab. For most age groups, taking the injection was all risk and no reward. And that was verifiable with available data at the time. Fast forward to today, and it's absurd to even suggest otherwise.
So what was that figure for you, for the initial covid strains (risk of hospitalisation and death, and reduction in risk with vaccine)? I'm assuming that you made that determination and didn't take the vaccine.
No offense, but I'm not going to discuss my personal medical situation with you.

The point is, many people had very legitimate reasons to abstain from the jab, which was easily supported by facts and science. Yet they were either forced or borderline exhorted into taking a medical intervention they did not need or could not take. In some cases, people were downright destroyed financially. It was criminal what happened in the winter of 21/22, and it should never happen again.

Many of my family and friends, who also took the jab, share the same objection. They regret succumbing to the unholy demands of the federal government and corporations.

They don't regret their decision because they think Bill Gates now has a patent on their DNA, but rather, they feel violated.

Sincere religious/conscientious objections and valid medical objections were ignored and trampled. Objections that should have been protected under The Human Rights Act. The government, and corporations that aligned with the government, crossed a line. A lot of lines. Rulings that support this statement are starting to come out, and more to come I'm sure. *see the link below

So, to get back to the original topic, I support PP's position and I'm happy there's a politician that dares to have the discussion. I don't feel he aligns with anti-vaxxers or some unhinged extremist group. I feel you've broad-stroked the issue, and dehumanized people who have suffered tremendously because of government overreach. Some won't agree with that, and that's fine, but your name-calling does nothing to move us forward. Real people had their lives ruined because of a completely unscientific mandate.


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J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:17 pm supported by facts and science.
Facts and science, such as this completely made-up story from a fake news outlet? At least use the Onion, which has a comedy factor. Epoch times is just boring fake news, kind of like those gossip magazines at the supermarket checkout.
I rest my case. You just lost the argument.
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CpnCrunch wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:21 pm
J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:17 pm supported by facts and science.
Facts and science, such as this completely made-up story from a fake news outlet? At least use the Onion, which has a comedy factor. Epoch Times is just boring fake news, kind of like those gossip magazines at the supermarket checkout.
I rest my case. You just lost the argument.
Epoch times or not, it's a legitimate ruling from a military tribunal. And I'm not arguing with you either. Just stating a position.

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Exactly. They should then not whine about society's/industry's consequences when they make their choice. To be clear, it was a choice. Some just didn't like the consequences.
Inverted2 wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:26 am
CpnCrunch wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:34 am He isn't helping himself by aligning so closely with the antivaxxers.
Not everyone who is against the vaccine mandates is an “anti vaxxer”. I’ve had lots of vaccines in my life but I was very opposed to what they did. Everyone should have the choice to make the decision on what they put in or keep out of their own body. End of discussion.
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Luckily, workplace safety trumps both your perceived charter and human rights. Who knew Section 1 would be the most important Charter right 5 years ago?
J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:17 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:48 pm
J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:36 pm

Absolutely. People had many sound and critically-minded reasons not to accept the jab. For most age groups, taking the injection was all risk and no reward. And that was verifiable with available data at the time. Fast forward to today, and it's absurd to even suggest otherwise.
So what was that figure for you, for the initial covid strains (risk of hospitalisation and death, and reduction in risk with vaccine)? I'm assuming that you made that determination and didn't take the vaccine.
No offense, but I'm not going to discuss my personal medical situation with you.

The point is, many people had very legitimate reasons to abstain from the jab, which was easily supported by facts and science. Yet they were either forced or borderline exhorted into taking a medical intervention they did not need or could not take. In some cases, people were downright destroyed financially. It was criminal what happened in the winter of 21/22, and it should never happen again.

Many of my family and friends, who also took the jab, share the same objection. They regret succumbing to the unholy demands of the federal government and corporations.

They don't regret their decision because they think Bill Gates now has a patent on their DNA, but rather, they feel violated.

Sincere religious/conscientious objections and valid medical objections were ignored and trampled. Objections that should have been protected under The Human Rights Act. The government, and corporations that aligned with the government, crossed a line. A lot of lines. Rulings that support this statement are starting to come out, and more to come I'm sure. *see the link below

So, to get back to the original topic, I support PP's position and I'm happy there's a politician that dares to have the discussion. I don't feel he aligns with anti-vaxxers or some unhinged extremist group. I feel you've broad-stroked the issue, and dehumanized people who have suffered tremendously because of government overreach. Some won't agree with that, and that's fine, but your name-calling does nothing to move us forward. Real people had their lives ruined because of a completely unscientific mandate.


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kgb531 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:37 am Luckily, workplace safety trumps both your perceived charter and human rights. Who knew Section 1 would be the most important Charter right 5 years ago?
J Roc wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:17 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:48 pm

So what was that figure for you, for the initial covid strains (risk of hospitalisation and death, and reduction in risk with vaccine)? I'm assuming that you made that determination and didn't take the vaccine.
No offense, but I'm not going to discuss my personal medical situation with you.

The point is, many people had very legitimate reasons to abstain from the jab, which was easily supported by facts and science. Yet they were either forced or borderline exhorted into taking a medical intervention they did not need or could not take. In some cases, people were downright destroyed financially. It was criminal what happened in the winter of 21/22, and it should never happen again.

Many of my family and friends, who also took the jab, share the same objection. They regret succumbing to the unholy demands of the federal government and corporations.

They don't regret their decision because they think Bill Gates now has a patent on their DNA, but rather, they feel violated.

Sincere religious/conscientious objections and valid medical objections were ignored and trampled. Objections that should have been protected under The Human Rights Act. The government, and corporations that aligned with the government, crossed a line. A lot of lines. Rulings that support this statement are starting to come out, and more to come I'm sure. *see the link below

So, to get back to the original topic, I support PP's position and I'm happy there's a politician that dares to have the discussion. I don't feel he aligns with anti-vaxxers or some unhinged extremist group. I feel you've broad-stroked the issue, and dehumanized people who have suffered tremendously because of government overreach. Some won't agree with that, and that's fine, but your name-calling does nothing to move us forward. Real people had their lives ruined because of a completely unscientific mandate.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive ... _cmp=gv-cc&
I'm still waiting for a SINGLE shred of evidence that shows anything that they did, particularly the vaccine mandate, improved workplace safety for anyone other than the person taking it. The person taking it didn't even benefit, but that's another argument.

I would also bet everything I own that as soon as they use article one to do something you DONT agree with, you won't be so quick to cheer it on. The thing about these rights is that people don't seem to care when they are taken away if it's something that doesn't affect them. That's the reason they are so important. There are too many people who don't understand that.

But yeah, the most important part of the charter was the part that about how to get around it.... :roll:
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