Flight helmet

tazin river · Post by **tazin river** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:13 am

Any of you folks using a fix-wing flight helmet? Gentex vs Gallet? Where can we order them in Canada?

Thanks

Tazin

snowshoe · Post by **snowshoe** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:23 am

hi taz:

am quite sure there is no one dealing in Gentex in Canada. have had a custom mold/fit one for close to 20 years and it came from the old Flight suits Int. in San Diego. i think the company is now known as Gibson&Barnes. try http://www.gibson-barnes.com

midcontenent aircraft in Haiti Missouri was at one time an outlet for Gentex. they sold the "ag-tex" model, is the model that does not require the wax molding to get the fit. they use some material like bubble wrap that you arrange for comfort. far as i know ,both of these outfits also provide refurbishing if required.

you could also contact Yorkton Aircraft in Sask.. they're quite heavy into the ag side and at one time were selling helmets. only thing i know for sure it was not a Gentex. afraid can't help you with the other helmet. totally unfamiliar with the brand.

hope this info helps

snowshoe[color=green][/color]

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:58 am

http://www.beasafepilot.com/equipment.htm

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:25 pm

Conair used to have a supply of them - don't know if they would sell to the public, but who knows? They would know how to get 'em. Ask for stores.
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lowlevel · Post by **lowlevel** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:15 pm

Got mine from flight suits in California. Great helmet, not cheap but would recomend it to anyone. As far as the ones Yorkton Aircraft were and I emphasize were, selling they were definately not as durable as flight suits. They were alot cheaper but i always wondered what they would look like coming out of an accident. I think you can buy some types of used helmets from the states, just surf the net and you will find what u need to know about. As far as finding good ones out of Canada you might be out of luck. Just Remember you are trying to save your noggin', and you get what you pay for!

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:37 pm

lowlevel wrote: Just Remember you are trying to save your noggin', and you get what you pay for!

Great advice, mine was $2000 and I wear it everyday, don't cheap out on one, or accept a fit that isn't right - you'll regret it.

STL

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:53 am

Unfortunately, Gibson & Barnes can no longer export helmet to Canada. Something to do with weapon export licence from the state department (Yes, in the US law a flight helmet (military type helmet with radio communication) is considered a weapon...).

How ever, they do sell to Canadian citizens provided it is shipped to the US. A Canadian citizen can then legally export this helmet (the law provides for exemptions for Canadian).

This is how I got mine from G&B last year.

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nacho · Post by **nacho** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:59 pm

I got mine reburbished and same sotry but called Gentex directly and the solved the problem for me.

bandit1 · Post by **bandit1** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:02 pm

(Yes, in the US law a flight helmet (military type helmet with radio communication) is considered a weapon...).

GOD BLESS AMERICA

bigredone · Post by **bigredone** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:56 pm

Ten cent head, ten cent helmet. Gentex is ok but if your doing 5-600hrs/ year youll need a refurb every five years or so. Alpha is tops if you got the cash.

SAR_YQQ · Post by **SAR_YQQ** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:55 pm

Quoted directly from the linked website on the application uses of a Gentex MILSPEC helmet for FW use:

Caution: HGU-55 helmets have been designed for use in fixed-wing aircraft and offer limited impact protection. Users with different applications should consider helmets with greater impact protection designed specifically for their applications.

If you are looking for a helmet to save your head from impact - go for a RW designed brain bucket.

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:48 am

I went through this dilemma when I got my HGU55. It is true that helicopter helmets offer greater lateral protection then fix wing helmets. Their shell is thicker on the sides simply because helicopter have a tendency to roll over during a crash. However, they are heavier. Fix wing aircraft have less a tendency to roll. Something to do with those long fixed thing on each side of the fuselage.

If you will use your helmet in a Choper, then by all means buy a choper helmet. Makes no sense to do otherwise. If you are like me and use the helmet exclusively in a fix wing, then the extra protection will not help but the extra weight will hurt your neck during all that acro.

cheers,

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nacho · Post by **nacho** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:35 am

HGU-33 good for fixed wing crashes...Tested!! Bought a new after that though.

kingeddie · Post by **kingeddie** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:58 pm

Alpha Eagle 900 is a great helmet . Available through interactive safety products in Mooresville NC .. Price is comparable to a gentex

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:28 pm

A helmet is the very best device for saving your hearing - above a certain sound pressure the damage is done by the vibration in your skull. A helmet damps that vibration.

You'd look great flying a screaming wienie with a helmet!

We abandoned helmets after we discovered that all the accidents that were occurring were fatals, so there was no point in wearing one, but everyone screwed their hearing. You also have to have a neck like a linebacker if you are pulling any Gs, either that or a resident physiotherapist.

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:58 am

Xs,

The neck issue is not too bad. Weight is one of the reason I went with the HGU55 instead of the Helicopter style. Being designed for the fighter jocks, it offers many features important to me; lighter weight, extra large facial opening (for increased field of vision, I actualy can't see the helmet) and super high neck opening (to allow freedom in head movement).

Truth is I don't fly with it every day, but when I do fly I always end up with 5 - 6gs on the meter. Never had any neck issues.

cheers,

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eternalhold · Post by **eternalhold** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:49 pm

Any idea if the export ban will be lifted anytime soon, or if there is anyway to go about shipping international? I wouldn't mind taking a trip to San Diego (aka a whales v@gin@) but it seems kinda wasteful just to pick it up.

av8tor_assrope · Post by **av8tor_assrope** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:41 pm

if anyone's looking for a helmet, you're in luck, i'm selling my HGU-55. only used it for about 100hrs. it's in near new condition with all the coms, cords, and mounts.

pm me and i'll give you the run down.

cheers

ottawa,kan · Post by **ottawa,kan** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:31 pm

If it would help I'd be willing to reship something. But I'm sure not in San Diego. Also it's Hayti Missouri, and it's none to close to here either.

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:50 am

eternalhold wrote:Any idea if the export ban will be lifted anytime soon,

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It is not an export ban. The companies can export if they chose to obtain an export permit. Gibson&Barnes, the major seller for general aviation choose not to get a permit. Truth is they have more then enough business inside the US so they prefer not waste time and $$ on getting the permits.

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donnybrook · Post by **donnybrook** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:24 am

merit apparel sells gallet. great support and reasonable prices. going on 2 years with the lh250 and still love it...

ragbagflyer · Post by **ragbagflyer** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:54 pm

I wish fixed wing aircraft flipped over more so I would have a reason to get a wicked helmet with flip down visors. I think at least 80 percent of the reason I want to convert to choppers is so I can get the most bad ass helmet on the planet and not have to explain it. Do any CF pilots other than fighter and chopper guys get to wear them? I'm a total gear junkie, helmets give me a hard on.

185/310 · Post by **185/310** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:36 pm

ragbagflyer wrote:

I wish fixed wing aircraft flipped over more so I would have a reason to get a wicked helmet with flip down visors. I think at least 80 percent of the reason I want to convert to choppers is so I can get the most bad ass helmet on the planet and not have to explain it.

I hope you were joking. You wish you could wear a helmet to basically be cool, did I understand that right? On a another note, im kinda curious as to why and which fix wing pilots would even require a helmet? I could see aerobatic pilots having a use for them, but who else?

AuxBatOn · Post by **AuxBatOn** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:38 pm

185/310 wrote:ragbagflyer wrote:

I wish fixed wing aircraft flipped over more so I would have a reason to get a wicked helmet with flip down visors. I think at least 80 percent of the reason I want to convert to choppers is so I can get the most bad ass helmet on the planet and not have to explain it.
I hope you were joking. You wish you could wear a helmet to basically be cool, did I understand that right? On a another note, im kinda curious as to why and which fix wing pilots would even require a helmet? I could see aerobatic pilots having a use for them, but who else?

I think "Low" level pilots would probably be better off with one! (Bird dogs, crop dusters, water bombers, etc).

Maybe Jazz pilots too now, since they have 250 hrs guys in the right seat

AuxBatOn

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:28 pm

This is the one my friend wore to the Speakeasy for his stag last summer. He might part with it for the right price...

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