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Part Time v. Full Time Instructors

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As the topic says, what are your thoughts about full time vs. part time instructors.

As an instructor do you prefer to only work at the school or would you rather have another job on the side (stupid to say because you probably do anyway) or would you rather work somewhere else and teach for full or fill in the day?

CFI's and Schools same question, we probably already know the answer, but would you rather have full time or an equal number of part time instructors?

And students, what is your take on this topic and why?
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Post by XJET »

I'd prefer the part-time flight instructor, because the full time one thinks he's 9-5 M-F. Which doesn't help me when I want my night rating or want to fly on weekends...
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Post by moetorious »

I prefer full time instructors, becuase fulltime students like me need to get our liscence A.S.A.P and thast not going to help if your only flying weekends and some weekdays.
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I'd prefer the part-time flight instructor, because the full time one thinks he's 9-5 M-F. Which doesn't help me when I want my night rating or want to fly on weekends...
As a Full-Time Instructor, for me, which is a personal choice, it goes a little something like this:

If i'm not booked off, it's free game!

So if that means that i work 12 hours in a day for 5 days straight, it's my choice to do so; and the only person to blame is the one in the mirror.

With that said, I don't have a "regular" day off like some of the 9-to-5ers that are out there.

To me the only day I should be off is when the weather is so brutal that the birds are walking, but then again, ground work or sim time can be done.

As a policy I try to take at least 4 days off in a 3 week period, and let my students know well ahead of time of the days i'm planning to take off.
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Post by moetorious »

Grey_Wolf wrote:
I'd prefer the part-time flight instructor, because the full time one thinks he's 9-5 M-F. Which doesn't help me when I want my night rating or want to fly on weekends...
As a Full-Time Instructor, for me, which is a personal choice, it goes a little something like this:

If i'm not booked off, it's free game!

So if that means that i work 12 hours in a day for 5 days straight, it's my choice to do so; and the only person to blame is the one in the mirror.

With that said, I don't have a "regular" day off like some of the 9-to-5ers that are out there.

To me the only day I should be off is when the weather is so brutal that the birds are walking, but then again, ground work or sim time can be done.

As a policy I try to take at least 4 days off in a 3 week period, and let my students know well ahead of time of the days i'm planning to take off.
Thats a type of instructor that i would prefer to be with.
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Post by Hedley »

the only day I should be off is when the weather is so brutal
Don't burn out. It won't help you or your students. Years ago, back when I was instructing full time, I remember we had a remarkable, perfect summer. I flew every day in July and August. Up early in the morning, and up late at night doing night ratings.

I was fried. I didn't have time to eat. I remember once doing circuits, I kept falling asleep when we turned crosswind, I slept during the downwind and base, and tried to wake up for the final. In retrospect, the student must have thought it was pretty weird.

I know flight instructors are paid poverty wages, and when the wx is good and the customers are there, the temptation to fly too much can be powerful, but ... all work and no play makes jack a strange boy.
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Post by Grey_Wolf »

Hedley,

OK so I exaggerated a little .... :wink:

On a serious note; Burn out does happen, and one must realize when it's occuring. It comes in simple forms as not sleeping very well, not eating well, and getting caught up in the 'dreaded zombie mode' of day in day out. Others will also point out your condition if your unable to detect it.

Hence the 'IMSAFE' Checklist that we teach .... FATIGUE being one of them. How can we be lead by example, by teaching students, these bad habits, right?
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Post by class4 »

moetorious wrote:
As a policy I try to take at least 4 days off in a 3 week period, and let my students know well ahead of time of the days i'm planning to take off.
Thats a type of instructor that i would prefer to be with.
I'll second that... True dedication....
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Post by shitdisturber »

I'm available to my students whenever any of them want to fly. Except when I'm hundreds of miles away for a month; like now. :roll: The downside to your real job interfering with your instructing job.
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Post by Cat Driver »

Forgive me for my ignorance, but what does.....
'IMSAFE'
Stand for....that's a new one to me.....is it something I have been doing and didn't realize it?
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Post by CD »

I think the concept of that acronym originated in the US. It's certainly not all that "new", I recall hearing about it 10+ years ago... And yes, it's likely something you are already doing intuitively.

Illness
Medication
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Alcohol
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Post by shitdisturber »

The "IMSAFE" checklist is part of the PDM mumbo jumbo that TC insists has to be taught in groundschool. I wasn't paying attention when I taught it last, wonder if the students were? What it all boils down to is a little common sense.
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Post by class4 »

shitdisturber wrote: I wasn't paying attention when I taught it last, wonder if the students were? What it all boils down to is a little common sense.
Can't teach that... Either you're born with it or you'll die without it. That applies to everything not just flying.
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Yup, the IMSAFE check is from the FAA:
IMSAFE Checklist
The following checklist, IMSAFE, is intended for a pilot’s personal preflight use. A quick check of the items on this list can help the pilot make a good self-evaluation prior to any flight. If the answer to any of the checklist questions is yes, then the pilot should consider not flying.

Illness—Do I have any symptoms?
Medication—Have I been taking prescription or over-the-counter drugs?
Stress—Am I under psychological pressure from the job? Do I have money, health, or family problems?
Alcohol—Have I been drinking within 8 hours? Within 24 hours?
Fatigue—Am I tired and not adequately rested?
Eating—Have I eaten enough of the proper foods to keep adequately nourished during the entire flight?
FAA-H-8083-15 - Instrument Flying Handbook
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Do I have money, health, or family problems?
Hmmmm,, I wonder how many instructors would pause at this check?
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Cat Driver wrote:
Do I have money, health, or family problems?
Hmmmm,, I wonder how many instructors would pause at this check?
If anybody actually did the "IMSAFE" checklist; all flight instructors who taught full time would have to ground themselves.
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Post by trancemania »

To me the only day I should be off is when the weather is so brutal that the birds are walking.


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