co-joe wrote:Where is that rule on turns below 400' on an IFR departure? Something about max 15 degrees of bank after gear in transit rings a bell.
Cap gen take off minima/departure procedures.
obstancle clearance met if 35 feet above end of runway, 400 AAE before turning, and 200 feet per NM gradient. Don't remember anything about angle of bank and gear in transit though. Wouldn't that part be aircraft specific?
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Well yes and no. At my last company we actually had an SOP regarding turns below 400 on visual departures under IFR rules and it was along these lines. I remember there being an actual CAR about this or a reference to is somewhere.
As I thought under 2 b it's there. I was wondering because on dep the other day we were looking at one of these and wanted options other than climbing straight on into it. Another option would have been to delay the departure of course...
The 15 degree bank angle is a certification thingee.
15 degrees of bank for 30 degrees can be disregarded as far as loss of performace is concerned during one engine inoperative climb performance. Mostly a second segment climb thing.
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at or above 50 feet, gear up, no flap selections in the turn and no more than 15 deg bank. Oh yeah and have a reason for not doing to normal 400' turn.
obstancle clearance met if 35 feet above end of runway, 400 AAE before turning, and 200 feet per NM gradient
I'm pretty sure that the only reason you do this is to guarantee you terain clearance in IMC conditions. If you're visual on takeoff and you want to do a quick turn to avoid a CB I don't see that as being a problem as long as you have visual terain avoidance.
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