Advice on options..

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Advice on options..

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I am jumping the gun here because I do not even know if the opportunity will be offered to me (they have a week full of interviews for the position, me included). This is in regards to the Air Tindi posting of load master/flight attendant on the jobs page a few weeks back.

Anyways, the nice lady I spoke too gave me the run down, asked me if I was still interested after hearing all the dirt etc. She said best estimation from this job to a FO is 2 years. Although I would take that to be a maximum as the economy is picking up.

So I am at a cross roads... Again, I am jumping the gun, because there are many other people being interviewed. I have exhausted myself trying to get involved with a local (YWG) company in any way possible. No one is even hiring a toilet scrubber.

Now the question. If this opportunity did arise, would it be one you would be temped to take? I have nothing holding me down in YWG, no family etc. Or would you stick it out in YWG waiting for Perimeter or something to start taking guys on? I am just overly excited that there is a glimmer of hope of an aviation related occupation.

My two options (in event I am asked)
1) Take it knowing in 2 years I will be flying and move
2) Keep my ass where I am, with no time frame of hope of employment. But not have to pick up and move for a non-flying job.

My mind flips back and forth every 5 minutes, I need someones direct screw your head on right response. :mrgreen:
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Air Tindi is a good company, so if I was you, Id take the offer and keep applying to other jobs while you're at Tindi. If a flying or other job comes along, take it. If not, you're still at a good reputable company. 2 years is a long time though, so if the offer does come, keep other options open.

Personally, if I didn't have a job yet, I would never turn down an offer from a good company.
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Hey

I see where you're at. It's a tough spot. To be honest, any ramp job you take at larger companies is going to be a long wait. Most larger companies want guys with experience so they will tend to hire more so from the outside. Think about it, if you lose a Dash 8 Capt, its much more effective to hire another Dash 8 Capt. The training costs to move people up eats into profits.

If you want to fast track your career maybe look at doing an instructor rating. I did both and I'm much further ahead with the rating, atleast you'll be flying. If you don't want to go that route, why not call the freight department at Tindi and ask the guys working. They will give you a straight answer and you can bypass the front end staff that may block you from talking to the key people. Just say you want to talk to someone in the freight department about a shipment. Also if you have no ties, have you tried small charter companies. Most of them have much faster movement as no one wants to live in the middle of nowhere.

Hope this helps.

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TopperHarley wrote:Air Tindi is a good company, so if I was you, Id take the offer and keep applying to other jobs while you're at Tindi. If a flying or other job comes along, take it. If not, you're still at a good reputable company. 2 years is a long time though, so if the offer does come, keep other options open.

Personally, if I didn't have a job yet, I would never turn down an offer from a good company.

Well said. Listen to this right here ^

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Make the move to Yellowknife.

1. You'll be closer to a flying job there than in an office.

2. You can always leave the ramp if an actual flying job comes along, no harm no foul.

3. Since YWG is colder than the the seventh layer of Hell, there'll be no culture shock.

4. Assuming your liver is currenlty healthy, you'll have a lot of fun destroying it.

5. Pilots are supposed to have a sense of adventure. There are no adventures in your mommies basement. No offense.

6. You might get yourself on TV!

Personally, I proposed to my wife while overlooking a barfight at the Gold Range. These and many other stories I'll be able to tell my kids someday (when their much, much older). Run, don't walk; adventure awaits :)
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The Gold Range alone will give you a foundation of cultural finesse that will serve you well throughout your life.
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ywgflyboy wrote:I am jumping the gun here because I do not even know if the opportunity will be offered to me (they have a week full of interviews for the position, me included). This is in regards to the Air Tindi posting of load master/flight attendant on the jobs page a few weeks back.

Anyways, the nice lady I spoke too gave me the run down, asked me if I was still interested after hearing all the dirt etc. She said best estimation from this job to a FO is 2 years. Although I would take that to be a maximum as the economy is picking up.

So I am at a cross roads... Again, I am jumping the gun, because there are many other people being interviewed. I have exhausted myself trying to get involved with a local (YWG) company in any way possible. No one is even hiring a toilet scrubber.

Now the question. If this opportunity did arise, would it be one you would be temped to take? I have nothing holding me down in YWG, no family etc. Or would you stick it out in YWG waiting for Perimeter or something to start taking guys on? I am just overly excited that there is a glimmer of hope of an aviation related occupation.

My two options (in event I am asked)
1) Take it knowing in 2 years I will be flying and move
2) Keep my ass where I am, with no time frame of hope of employment. But not have to pick up and move for a non-flying job.

My mind flips back and forth every 5 minutes, I need someones direct screw your head on right response. :mrgreen:
Take the job. In this business you get hired by building personal relationships in what is still a very small community. The best way to start building those relationships is take an aviation related position. Obviously a flying position is best but anything airside ( at a good company) is better than being on the outside looking in.
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toelessjoe wrote: 5. Pilots are supposed to have a sense of adventure. There are no adventures in your mommies basement. No offense.
Think you missed the part where I said I have nothing in YWG, no family etc! They all bailed to the fine province of BC a few years ago to seek fresh peaches and mild temperatures. Have been out on my own since 17 years of age, working, partying, and paying my way through life and flying (with a little help from the fine people at Bank of Montreal) 8) .
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I am almost took that same job two years ago at this exact time of year. I was low hour pilot trying to get my first job. I accepted the position but decided to put my job seeking into overdrive before I made the move. I ended getting a job flying in a 185. Two years later I am at 1500TT with 1300 PIC. I know a I got lucky but then again there are those that say hard work brings more luck. Say positive and keep looking for a flying job. If nothing happens then you will have a foot in the door of the industry. I had a friend who took a ramp job at Buffalo a few years ago which lead to a flying job with another company within a few months.
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ywgflyboy wrote:
toelessjoe wrote: 5. Pilots are supposed to have a sense of adventure. There are no adventures in your mommies basement. No offense.
Think you missed the part where I said I have nothing in YWG, no family etc! They all bailed to the fine province of BC a few years ago to seek fresh peaches and mild temperatures. Have been out on my own since 17 years of age, working, partying, and paying my way through life and flying (with a little help from the fine people at Bank of Montreal) 8) .
My bad. Now quit typing & start packing before I have to drive to YWG and put you on a plane myself. Always listen to Toeless!! Toeless knows all!!! Toeless refers to himself in the third person due to messiah complex!! Toeless seems to have veered off topic!! My bad, again.

Seriously, get going.
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Think NASA should ask for your help in their R&D department. Your ego could surely lift them to new heights. :lol:
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Testicles, son. It's all about the size of the testicles. 8) . Now pack already.
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Ok, so you stick where you are, and *maybe* Perimeter calls you. What's their wait on the ramp? 2 Years? Take the first job that is offered, and then worry about getting a seat.
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North Shore wrote:Ok, so you stick where you are, and *maybe* Perimeter calls you. What's their wait on the ramp? 2 Years? Take the first job that is offered, and then worry about getting a seat.
I agree, take the job, I would if I were back in those shoes.
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the train has started to move at tindi, just don't be an excellent load master and i doubt you'll have to wait two years..
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It's always easier to find a job in the industry if you already have one.
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