Provincial Airways

[some1whoknows]

I was told recently that the Provincial Airways Crews based at Montreal are being organized by the Teamsters Union, has anybody else heard this rumour. Appearantly there is a meeting planned by Management for employees based in St. John's for Sunday Night, 2/20/11.

Anybody else with information on this care to share it with the forum?

Merci

[prop2jet]

A word of advice to the pilots at Provincial considering courting Teamster's - DON'T. By all means organize yourselves but the Teamsters are not the way to go. They might be good for the trucking industry but have not done well by representing the airline industry.

[Slappy the Squirrel]

To avoid confusion, remember the regional airline based out of St. John's is called Provincial AIRLINES, not Provincial Airways.

Splitting hairs maybe, but I think there is a Provincial Airways out west, so it can be confusing for some.

[FL470]

That would be very interesting if they were to get a union setup there, when I was there the word was if a union started they would chain up the front doors and shut down the airline.....Also if anyone was ever caught speaking about it you would be conveinantly laid off.....Is that even possible?

[North Shore]

^Fear-mongering by management, IMHO. I can't see anyone shutting down a successful/profitable business out of spite just because the employees organised.

[SeptRepair]

Northshore.... It happens. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Apr13.html

[Northern Flyer]

Unions cost companies allot of money in the long run and make for lazy employee's IMHO. You can deny it all you want but it's true

[Beefitarian]

We should all move to a Farm without electricity so we won't be so lazy.

[Northern Flyer]

[HavaJava]

PAL desperately needs a union in my opinion...not necessarily to improve wages, but to protect employees from unscrupulous managers. MANY pilots have been punished for reporting incidents under the SMS system. As of 1 year ago, there was a definite culture of being afraid to report anything for fear of being fired/black-balled/etc (and there are many good examples of this)...

The most important part of strong union in my opinion is to provide checks and balance in the safety department of an airline.

[Slappy the Squirrel]

Apparently nothing was brought up at the meeting regarding a union.

[palpilot]

Union in Montreal? First I've heard of it, and as for the Pilot meetings it wasn't mentioned.

[FL470]

The meeting was all about increasing On Time Performance, and apoligizing for alot of schedule changes..... a new dash8-300 coming on-line......yadda yadda yadda.

Fl470

[some1whoknows]

I was told by an employee in Wabush yesterday that March 26th is a date to watch.....

[complexintentions]

It's a good company with wonderful people, I hope they can avoid the ugliness that seems to go along with a union drive. But here's the thing, if you treat your people decently there's not much chance of a union coming on the property...

[collegejunkie]

Does anyone know if Provincial Airways is hiring any Captains/Fos on the Dash 8 based in St.Johns? Are they expecting any movement with anyone leaving? I haven't heard of any hiring there in awhile. Do they have anyone internally upgradeable?

[FL470]

There is always movement there, they upgrade from within. Usually they hire the F/O's from either there SOCC center or on the ramp. Lots of young kids there now waiting, now thats not to say they won't hire someone with a good bit of time. I'd highly doubt they would do Direct entry Captain though.

FL470

[all_ramped_up]

I know at least one Dispatcher is waiting for a Dash F/O position right now.

Haven't seen any openings yet though internally or externally posted recently.

[aerodude]

I know at least one Dispatcher is waiting for a Dash F/O position right now.

Haven't seen any openings yet though internally or externally posted recently.

You saying they put 200 hr guys on the right seat of a dash-8 to fly on the east coast? That's awesome

[FL470]

Well it doesn't happen all the time but yeah it happens.....most time its into a twin otter in Goose Bay, or an F/O on a Metro.
But to be real, its easier to fly a dash then it is a metro with no autopilot around here. They haven't had many issues with who they put on there machines.

FL470

[Siddley Hawker]

It's a good company with wonderful people, I hope they can avoid the ugliness that seems to go along with a union drive. But here's the thing, if you treat your people decently there's not much chance of a union coming on the property...

+10

Anyone know if George Furey is still around?

[OceansEdge]

Anyone know if George Furey is still around?

George retired - late 2005, early 2006 if I'm not mistaken

Still see him now and again at company functions

[on-the-step]

A union at PAL?
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Good one!

[Max_Power]

Anyone know if George Furey is still around?

George retired - late 2005, early 2006 if I'm not mistaken

Still see him now and again at company functions

OceansEdge, I didn't think that you worked at Provincial Airlines anymore.

[OceansEdge]

OceansEdge, I didn't think that you worked at Provincial Airlines anymore.

I don't. I left a year ago. However, I saw George at the Operations Christmas Luncheon a few months prior to that. He and his family were presented with a commenerative painting in appreciation of his years of service.