Updated salary tables 2024

[goingnowherefast]

Correct, but they don't include the rates from Encore's TA.
Or are they not relevant yet because it's still a TA? I understand either option, just not sure what the avcanada anarchy rules dictate.

[yowflyer23]

yowflyer23, thanks for all your efforts.
I know the regional pilot chart is in another thread somewhere. Are you able to post it on this thread too? Keep everything in one place?

The updated one is in the encore forum, but I’ll update the one here once the TA is voted upon. I’d also like to include some ATR operators for comparison like Morningstar/5T/Calm Air, but those aren’t as easy to find.

[goingnowherefast]

I'll PM you some rates for Calm Air, Wasaya and Perimeter. I don't know MMG, so hopefully someone else can provide that detail

[C-GGGQ]

Perimeter is 78 mmg not sure about calm or wasaya

[IJNShiroyuki]

Perimeter is 78 mmg not sure about calm or wasaya

Wasaya is MMG 160 Duty hours, not flight hours

[revilo]

I'll PM you some rates for Calm Air, Wasaya and Perimeter. I don't know MMG, so hopefully someone else can provide that detail

I'd love to see these as I go job huntin.

[IcePharaoh]

I'll PM you some rates for Calm Air, Wasaya and Perimeter. I don't know MMG, so hopefully someone else can provide that detail

I'd also be interested in that info please.

[RayJr]

I'll PM you some rates for Calm Air, Wasaya and Perimeter. I don't know MMG, so hopefully someone else can provide that detail

I'd also be interested in that info please.

Probably everyone would.

[CaptDukeNukem]

You could just look up their contracts on negotech.

[IcePharaoh]

You could just look up their contracts on negotech.

Managed to find the one for Perimeter but haven't seen anything up to date for Calm Air or Wasaya.

[goingnowherefast]

I dunno how to upload anything to this site. Sorry folks. I'm not nerdy enough.

[8895]

Figure I’d bump this and let whoever makes the tables do their thing now that Porters response to the AC TA is out

[yowflyer23]

Figure I’d bump this and let whoever makes the tables do their thing now that Porters response to the AC TA is out

Here ya go:
(Edited to add 5T ATR + fixed Porter Q rates)

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[braaap Braap]

Figure I’d bump this and let whoever makes the tables do their thing now that Porters response to the AC TA is out

Here ya go:
(Edited to add 5T ATR)

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Those are still the old rates for Dash 8 CA Porter

[yowflyer23]

Those are still the old rates for Dash 8 CA Porter

My mistake. Fixed.

[slob driver]

Thanks for putting the table together.

Small suggestion to consider…..Since Porter’s rates are effective Jan 1, Wj’s rates should also reflect their pay increase on Jan 1.

[throwawaycorporate]

it would be awesome to be able to see work rules, vacation, other QOL as well because as we know $$ isn't everything.

[yowflyer23]

it would be awesome to be able to see work rules, vacation, other QOL as well because as we know $$ isn't everything.

I agree and I've thought about doing that but it's tough to find that information without the contracts in front of me and it would also be quite time consuming to put it all together. If someone from each airline would post a summary here that would be wonderful!

[slob driver]

Let me know what you’d like and I’ll post for WJ.

[Me262]

Let me know what you’d like and I’ll post for WJ.

With what airlines can you list business on myIDtravel?

[slob driver]

That’s a good question that I do not have an answer for. One would have to go through every single airline. Maybe there’s another wj pilot on here that’s willing to do that leg work:). I was thinking more along the line of CA questions.

[goingnowherefast]

-Max days worked
-Max reserve days in a row
-Max reserve extensions
-General reserve rules (availability periods, when they're assigned, short call/long call times)
-Mid-pairing changes and extensions (credit protections? How many hours/days permitted. What happens if extended, more pay, reallocated days off, nothing)
-Pairing removal or reassignment rules
-Vacation allotment and rules
-Years of service when changing positions (different seat/aircraft)?
-Pay rigs (duty, trip)
-training hotels provided?
-training in block, or additional days

-Flight Data protections
-Post incident/accident protections (domestic/US/international)

I'm sure there's more, feel free to improve my list.

[slob driver]

-Max days worked
16 days for line holder and mixed reserve/line holder
18 days for full reserve line holder

-Max reserve days in a row
5 for narrowbody
6 for widebody

-Max reserve extensions

- Details in CA

-General reserve rules (availability periods, when they're assigned, short call/long call times)

- Details in CA

-Mid-pairing changes and extensions (credit protections? How many hours/days permitted. What happens if extended, more pay, reallocated days off, nothing)

- Details in CA

-Pairing removal or reassignment

- Details in CA

-Vacation allotment and rules

Years 1-3: 4 weeks (including stats which are parcelled together as vacation weeks
4-6: 5 weeks
7-24: 6 weeks
25+: 7 weeks
One week of vacation = 5 paid days
-One orphaned stat for everyone that can be attached to an above week
-4.5 credit hours credited to each paid vacation day
-can attach three non-paid gdo’s to each vacation week

-Years of service when changing positions (different seat/aircraft)?
Full years of service for all active time spent on property ie year 9 737 fo upgrades to year 9 737 captain

-Pay rigs (duty, trip)

Trip rig- 1:4, improving to 1:3.75 Jan/26
Duty rig-1:2
Min duty period credit (mdpc): 4 improving to 4.25 Jan/26

-training hotels provided?
Training hotels provided for both initial and recurrent training.

-training in block, or additional days

All training included in monthly block ie sim,crm,ept, line check. No training outside of block.

-Flight Data protections
-Post incident/accident protections (domestic/US/international)

-Numerous protections in multiple sections of collective agreement

Extensive protections in Collective agreement
I'm sure there's more, feel free to improve my list.

[slob driver]

I’ve tried attaching the Collective Agreement for the references to the Ca in my response above, however I’m getting an error message that the file is too large

[throwawaycorporate]

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Thanks for all the awesome info, if others can chime in from other airlines I'm sure we're all curious.